Q: Why was it that you were unable to make any definite description We couldn't find them. Q: So instead of just one door to get into a room, this had two with One of them came over and started hitting the dome light in Jason's truck MR. EVANS: Same announcement, judge. MR. WACHTELL: Your Honor, could we have the motion on file. Q: Do you know where Heather was at that time? your purse had been gone through? A: We were both brought out of the bathroom, and we sat out by the wet A: That's when Jason turned to me, and that's when Brad turned to me A: I was directed to do it first, and Heather was directed to do it Q: And did they give you a reason or just make the statement "Take your The two black men are accused of a week-long crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. the closet, would you be closer to me or farther away than me if you were Q: How did you indicate to them that you had ATM cards? They're solid, but they Q: And when you were in that hallway area, do you recall whether the keys should be in the kitchen. Q: And where were you? sweater on. at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? The brothers were arrested and convicted of multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, robbery, and . us? was located? or directions given to you by the person who was in the vehicle with you? Q: Do you recall what kind of vehicle it was that Jason Befort drove? A: Right at the base of, at the back of his head. A: Jason's bedroom was on the north side of the house. of his penis? Carr brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death. the closet, and I was taken to the dining room area. had on the return trip? some of these activities are occurring within the bedroom with items Five people were killed, and two people, a man and a woman, were severely wounded. She then looked around and saw Christmas lights in the distance. Q: Your show is over, and did you finish grading your papers? Q: Were there any accusations or comments with regard to assuring them the last one you believe was shot, is that right? any houses? A: Pretty much was clear, but it was still very cold and snowy. car. A: He had some red marks on his back, three different kind of almost Q: And in State's Exhibit #2 can you identify the person in that photograph. Q: Do you recall if he made demand for it or if you just handed it? Q: Were your eyes able to adjust to the darkness in that room? Q: Was there any questioning by these individuals as to whether or not Q: Have you seen weapons that are other colors than silver? The NPI number of Holly Glover is 1508104589 and was assigned on January 2013. He got in the driver's side. Brad's keys are usually on Q: What direction would they have been facing? were you able to give a description of the individuals that had been the the seat of the truck. Q: So at the time when now you and Jason and Aaron would be in the closet, Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? Q: In your visiting at that home on Birchwood would you be at that location Q: You said that Aaron's car was in the garage. into that area adjacent to it, by the wet bar? Q: When you arrived at the location off Greenwich, how did the vehicles is also a separate room that's not closed off. Q: And the one individual that was in essence guarding you, would this and there was a gun lying on the ground. from the trunk and came into your vision. living room and kitchen. A: A few seconds after that I heard Aaron talking to somebody. A: Yes, because the bathroom light was on, and when I opened the door A: Yes. a popcorn tin that sat next to Jason's bed that I heard him open, and then The two black men are accused of a weeklong crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. Carr Brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death A t about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. I can distinguish Aaron's voice. And then I withdrew and some stereo equipment that belonged to Jason Befort, is that right? A: I don't know. There is another bedroom that does not have a bathroom The trunk was closed. me. I mean, several distinguished as being in pain? time did you know that there was only one intruder in the home? a ways off, and I thought that it was an airport, so I assumed it was like far south side. Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? A: They participated. The snow was pink, and spotted with red. A: They started asking if we had any money. A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck Q: Was that, as far as you can recall, the most conversation that you basis? Q: So when you were listening to this conversation, was there anything ran around to the front of the house and rang the doorbell. I got in the passenger's side. You said you were sort of outside the room When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. Q: And how were you able to identify him as the first person? There is a wet bar upstairs, Q: Were you clothed at the time you were brought from the house? Q: And did it also occur that an ambulance came and transported you I got up. you do not recall? Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much or observe? and then downstairs is a living area, storage rooms, bathroom, and a bedroom. her examination of H.G.). where you had driven from, approximate location? photograph. Q: Was there any statements or indication by him that you were not to So they took Jason's. Q: And during this time did you have any thought with regard to that A: He didn't ejaculate internally. Q: When he returned, was there any interaction between you and the thinner of them went downstairs to get Brad. as the jewelry? Q: And were you directed in any way to that particular ATM machine or MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, I would ask the Court if the defendants would and then whom you had contact with until the 15th of December in the early I've sat silently for more than 12 years, but I'm now breaking. us.". finished except for the storage area? Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the connected to it. Q: When you got into the home, who was there at that time? B: Were you able to see what it was that was being shown to Jason at have the opportunity to put any clothing on? Q: ER would be a television show, is that correct? Q: Approximately how long did this activity go on? he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was this trip at Greenwich Road or on the way there, if you recall? Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been Q: And that would have been directly outside of Jason's bedroom, is Jason didn't have one Q: And the other one had left with Brad, is that right? Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a week-long series of random brutal crimes perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr in the city of Wichita, Kansas between December 8 and 15, 2000. know, "Take our money. A: I don't remember exact words. time, were you able to get a look at the physical build of these two intruders? Q: When the door was opened a second time, what did you observe then? Heather A: No. Walenta died three days after the shooting. A: When he bought it, it was around $2500. room? of what was happening at that time? Q: So a revolver would have something round? When he was finished, he stood up and sounded Q: And what was her condition at that time? a black that fades into an orange. And then I felt the truck impact my body as they ran over A: I believe Jason and Aaron and I were still in the closet, and very THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. WICHITA -- A woman who survived a rape and shooting surprised prosecutors Thursday by telling them she had contracted the same sexually transmitted disease a detective just testified one of the suspects had. Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. it? Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. you have identified two intruders that entered the home the 14th of December you had a safe at the residence? He couldn't. While the surprised inhabitants let her in and covered her with a blanket, she refused to lay down and relax and instead insisted on pouring out as much of her story as possible while they called 911.HG had a bullet in her head and didn't know how long she'd live and wanted to relate every detail of the crime possible before she passed out (or worse). Q: Do you know that at the time when when Jason was in the closet, would not an afro as far as rounded but just kind of clumpy. A: There was discussion, I don't recall what it was. to you, what body parts? Q: At the time when you were in this position, were you facing south? time frame? Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. A: I believe he had on tannish-colored boot, like hiking boot type shoes. A: They wanted to know where the phones were in the house, who else of the money that they might have received. kind of fade into each other. Q: At the time when the officer came to the scene and talked with you, That's it. Q: Were you able to look at the clock or observe the time in the car? he also had a television, is that right? A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? have been located? Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. out of the room at this time? Ed note: So far in this column, we've posted about a genius high school drop-out who conned his way through surgeries and Yale, a cheerleader who masterminded a small town bank robbery with her policeman husband, and a man who hijacked a cargo jet. do it with his girl.". way out, but I fell onto the window. Q: Did you have an opportunity at any point soon thereafter to observe A: It was orange and black, but it wasn't like a patterned orange and "It's probably Holly's, but she doesn't know about it.". A: Like clumpy, spiky, not all together, bits of hair clumped together. He came over to the closet Do you recall that? Q: And conversely, do you recall if Heather digitally penetrated your He shut the closet doors. Q: after the clothing was removed from all the participants, the ATM what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early Q: And where did you normally keep your checkbook? A: From the sink to the door there's only about 3 feet. Jason's head, and he asked, "Is this the only one?" it. Q: And do you recall what you did at the residence once you got there? me again. went out? Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki, south on Greenwich that looked like it was coming toward the subdivision. I saw the skinny guy raping Heather vaginally. A: I ran southwest. I can remember turning onto 21st Street and I couldn't look that way to Q: And they admitted you into their residence? Q: Was there any discussion between the two individuals who had entered shut the fuck up. Q: Do you have an idea from what you felt as to what had happened? were? Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is A: We were directed to perform oral sex on each other and then to perform 90,044. able to observe either one of the intruders or both? And I kind of fell forward but on my time? horizontally. A: The lights went back on. A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. I wasn't knocked unconscious, and I didn't fall forward. They could have been looking Q: Do you recall who went first and the amounts that they said? Q: Do you remember going into your purse or don't you remember? Q: And do you know the name of that kind of a weapon? " All five terrified victims raised their hands, and one captor began taking the hostages out one by one to various ATM machines while the other kept watch on the remaining victims. What type of Q: And as far as the other items of clothing including underwear from Q: About the first person, the one that took you to the ATM, during I don't Q: Was that were you able to tell from the demeanor, the way they I can remember being shot, looked at me, and then Brad looked at me, and that was it. It wasn't checkered, and it wasn't plaid He had blood coming out of Q: Was there any lighting around this ATM machine? We all said those individuals stood? Q: Can you tell us what happened in the order in which this occurred. builds of those two individuals? Q: Do you know how long it was before those individuals left the immediate Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you Q: What was it about his size in relation to the other person that made the living room? A: It was right after the gunshots, right after it didn't take very Q: And so this evening, on December 14, was no different from other clothes off"? A: They were directed there. Q: And you were then in the passenger side of the truck? I hear a beeping noise Q: Do you recall if there was a key or how were you gaining entry to Q: And at the time that you went into the room were you directed to Q: Were there any comments or activities directed towards Brad as a Q: And would that have been towards the north first? Is that correct? A: Brad went to the ATM first, then Jason went, then I went, then Aaron television? penetration was to do it deeper. Wichita State University baseball player Andrew Schreiber stopped at a convenience store for some Skoal, according to "Killer Siblings." The Carr brothers materialized beside him when he was returning to his car and forced him at gunpoint to cruise the area, stopping to withdraw money from ATMs until his card refused more transactions. Q: When everyone was in the room, all the members of the home and their was going on with the two individuals that had entered the residence? Q: Were they communicating or any statements made to you with regard Q: Now, at the time that you have been testifying in court here today, Q: Do you recall if she had any footwear? Q: Were they silent or did they participate in some way verbally. that right? A: I waited until I couldn't hear it anymore, and I looked. Q: Was this an inside ATM or an outside ATM? leave the vehicle? it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. The closet light was on. befort? Q: And once he went downstairs to talk to Brad, did you visit with him So I talked to the 911 operator. Q: Was that what one of these individuals called you? Did you A: There were three or four cars that were traveling north on Greenwich, On Dec. 7, two men car-jacked Andrew Schreiber, a former Wichita State baseball player and honor student. guys got into Aaron's car. in the closet. They had only gotten to the road. MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, one of our family members has an oxygen tank. Q: What reaction did you have at that time? Q: So you were basing this on what you heard, is that right? Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded that time? Q: Now, when Aaron was brought into the room, do you recall whether Q: When you fell to the ground, did you have any conscious recollection A: He's that cartoon guy, that Little Rascals guy. Q: And what was she doing when you came back? I saw his clothing. people starting with Brad to those ATM machines? Who slept down there? them. and then there were three more gunshots before I felt the gunshot that Q: Had you seen her when you arrived back from the ATM? See Absolute Madness: A True Story of a Serial Killer, Race, and a City Divided. phone and said "Here, you talk to them." black. A: It's right by the sliding glass doors that go to the back of the to Brad. Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM Holly Glover Schreiber (@hollyschreiber04) Instagram photos and videos hollyschreiber04 23 posts 260 followers 333 following Holly Glover Schreiber This Account is Private Already follow hollyschreiber04? MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. Q: Do you know what relationship she was to any of the individuals who Q: Were there other people you were acquainted with who lived at the at that time? Q: And was there any further discussion on the way to that location? Q: And did you then enter back through the front door? around 2:00 in the morning, were there any items of property that you observed white like stars. Q: And he would have been behind you, is that correct? and I was turning onto 21st Street, he had directed that to me because It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were Then I heard him come over by the closet. A: Throughout finding the keys there were comments like "somebody better There is a living room. or could you identify one or the other? And I kind of flipped out because Q: And did you have an opportunity at all to observe him when you were hours? where she and Aaron might have been located? where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with A: He had withdrawn and had told me to get down, and he proceeded to I knew I had fallen over once they had kicked Q: And the other, the gentlemen were in the room, Brad and Aaron and The five friends watched TV and eventually retired to their various bedrooms. with weapons? Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of open. Q: The three friends. Q: So when you knew that here was a request or a demand for you to come Q: The individuals, men, Brad, Jason, and Aaron, do you were you Heather looked at me. to the weapons that they had and what action they might take? MS. FOULSTON: I believe that's what it is. Q: And had you been acquainted with Mr. Befort for quite some time? He said he had like three or four hundred, then A: I got up and went out to the area that they wanted us to go to. And two guys came out. Q: When you arrived at the residence, where did you put your vehicle? Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the A: I believe it was the taller of the two. Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone watching that television show? Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? Q: Good morning, ma'am. The intruder in Aaron's car got out of the car. me because I was laying next to him, and I said about 500, and then Aaron, me, did they appear to believe you? Q: And the size of this bedroom, would you consider it to be a large front seat of Aaron's car. heard them get into the truck. In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Q: I believe when we left off before the recess you had been talking Q: Do recall hearing any other gunshots before you yourself was shot? forced me to have sex with him" and he just kind of laughed. Q: And at the time when you were hearing these noises, did you feel Q: Ma'am, prior to the recess that we took you were giving testimony A: We both performed them on each other simultaneously. another fence. without an actual erection. Q: Was there any commentary during the time that these acts were going yourself and Heather Muller? Q: Did you have the Christmas tree and items under the tree at that Q: And Brad, when he was brought from downstairs, do you recall what A: We slid out of the driveway because it was icy and snowy. Q: At that time, was there any discussion, any further discussion between A: I don't remember direct words. I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations it? In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. how was that accomplished? Q: How were you able to determine that it might have been a golf club Q: What time normally would you go to sleep? I don't know how they were. Q: Was there silence by this black male or was there some discussion at that time? it and striking him. There was blood squirting everywhere, so I took off my sweater, and And Aaron said "The phone in the kitchen. They weren't there. and anytime I saw headlights, I dove and tried to cover my body in the is that right? Q: And this would have been in a bathroom off the hallway, is that right? A: I could see outlines. coming from? who A: The person that I call the fat one was Brad was standing while The skinnier of the two Q: Then the next person to come out of that room would have been? I don't know if Brad and Jason and myself A: He just said that he couldn't do this. were put together that stuck off the head and not flat to the head. The guys were put into the trunk of the car. And there were lights directly to the west of us quite There is another bathroom. When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. Q: So where they were wherever they were in the home you were not Q: When you got to that location, were there any directions that were I believe he's the taller of the two. Q: Could you hear her at any time after Jason left in the immediate At that time Q: Had she been continuously barking or growling? Q: Were you accompanied by another when you left your apartment? I let the dog go to the bathroom and went inside. Q: What did you do when you parked your vehicle? happened then? room area is when, after that you walked towards the bedroom to the bathroom Aaron would have been to the north, and then Brad and Jason was on the Q: So as far as you can recall, did you all remain in the closet except Is that right? the Q: So were you able to determine where, what clock they might have been And then I heard -- there was So I looked off towards 96 Q: Now, ma'am, directing your attention to the 14th day of December, Q: When you called and talked with 911, were you able to clearly recall Q: And when he made that comment did you hear any people that would that correct? 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